Gross. #Trump is calling his new #tariffs announcement event in the Rose Garden,“Make America Wealthy Again”
They will do the exact opposite.
#economy #inflation #recession #Trumpcession #geopolitics #USpol
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/04/02/business/trump-tariffs-liberation-day?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=p&pvid=05B724A4-9BAC-4D02-A7DA-53810A9C318B
#Trump called the announcement “our declaration of economic independence” & described it as one of the most important moments in American history.
Trump said his #tariff policies would generate “trillions and trillions of dollars to reduce our taxes & pay down our national debt.”
Again, the opposite is true according to most financial experts.
#Trump claims that many countries have targeted the #US w/ “non-monetary barriers,” like currency manipulation, subsidies, exorbitant taxes & theft of intellectual property.
Trump specifically talked about the #EuropeanUnion’s value-added tax, which he has long despised. #VAT rates are common outside of the United States, & the U.S. is actually an outlier for not having one.
#Trump singled out other countries for their #tariffs on US cars, but important to remember his admin already announced 25% tariffs on cars & auto parts imported into the US. Those go into effect just after midnight Thurs.
Trump is mentioning tariffs that other countries put on American products, but not the high tariffs that the US charges on certain products from other countries. For example, he mentioned a 10% tariff that Europe puts on American vehicles.
The 25% #tariff on cars & car parts that #Trump is talking about goes into effect just after midnight. The #UAW union is a strong supporter of those #tariffs, but auto companies & economists have said they will lead to significantly higher car #prices & could even slow US auto production.
Trump said his tariffs offered an example of his admin “standing up for our great farmers & ranchers.” Reminder: in his first term, he had to bail farmers out after they were hurt by his #TradeWar w/ #China.
#Trump talks about the #trade deficits the US has amassed w/other countries and says, “We’re really not taking it anymore.” The trade deficit is the difference between what a country #exports & what it #imports. The #US has long imported more goods than it exports.
Economists don’t agree #TrumpTariffs will really lower the US trade deficit.
#FactCheck #TrumpLies #economy #tariffs #inflation #recession #Trumpcession #geopolitics #USpol
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/us/politics/trump-us-trade-deficit.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=p&pvid=BDD83014-9AC7-4D03-920E-1AE6DAAAD536
#Trump is cherry picking a lot of high #tariffs that foreign countries charge on American products. But the US has high tariffs on certain products too, like sugar, footwear, apparel & peanuts, a legacy of efforts to protect those industries. The United States charges 350% tariffs on tobacco from many countries, 260% tariffs on Irish butter substitutes & 197% tariffs on Chinese stainless steel kitchenware, for example.
#Trump claims that the price #eggs have gone down under his watch after an outbreak of #BirdFlu. But economists warn that #tariffs of the kind that Trump is pursuing are likely to lead to much higher #prices for #consumers. The big question is whether that will translate to persistently higher #inflation.
#Trump again criticizes the creation of the #IncomeTax in the US in 1913, arguing that it’s a mystery why the nation ever instituted one. American policymakers embraced the income tax for 2 reasons: to collect more taxes from the #rich & to pay for a growing federal govt.
Conversly, #tariffs disproportionately burden #LowIncome Americans, who spend more of their earnings on goods that tariffs make more expensive.
#Trump calling the #trade deficit a “national emergency” that threatens US #security, lays out his *legal* argument for his actions.
“They rip us off,”Trump says of the #EU, announcing a 20% #tariff on the 27-nation bloc.
Trump holds a chart showing reciprocal tariff rates for US trading partners & says he will charge half of that much? There is no explanation for the calculations that he is using to justify the #tariffs. Likely because they’re arbitrary revenge tactics.
Many of these tariff rates seem much higher than some economists & policymakers had been expecting.
#Trump says the US will calculate a tariff rate for other countries based on #tariffs & “other forms of cheating” — whatever that means.
He says #China will face a 34% tariff, while the #EU will be 20%. #Japan will be 24% & #India 26%.
#Trump says he will charge the #UK a 10% #tariff. Remarkable, since the US runs a #trade surplus w/Britain, it’s a close ally & the country has been trying to negotiate a trade deal w/Trump.
Trump says he will also establish a “universal baseline tariff” of 10% that will apply to ALL COUNTRIES, in ADDITION to the numbers he’s already announced. That means a country like China will face a 44% tariff on top of the 20% already imposed.
“They’ve got some very bad things going on in South Africa,” #Trump goes on a #ConspiracyTheory based tangent when he outlines the reciprocal tariff against that nation. Trump & #Musk have repeatedly amplified false claims about the persecution of #white Afrikaners in #SouthAfrica, & made an exception to his refugee ban to screen Afrikaners for #refugee status. Trump included in his tangent a typical criticism of the #media for how it covers South Africa.
#Trump claims that experts have been wrong about #NAFTA, #China & his first-term #tariffs & that they will be wrong again about his current trade actions.
Futures on the S&P 500, which allow investors to trade when exchanges are not officially open, began to tumble after Trump started outlining the tariff rates. The index had ended the day higher, but futures are now down more than 1%.
#Trump touts manufacturing jobs that have been created since his 2nd term began as well as the fact that some consumer prices have eased. The issue is that neither of those very modest trends are likely to continue w/these #tariffs, economists say. A new report released this week showed that manufacturing activity contracted in March & businesses in that sector are now expecting much slower growth & higher prices.
#Trump said #grocery & other #prices are starting to come down, & that his policies are bringing down #inflation. In fact, inflation has picked up in the first weeks of his term, & economists almost universally expect #tariffs to further drive up prices.
“There’s a reason this came at 4 PM ET, with #markets closed,” said Jorn Fleck, senior director with the Europe Center at the Atlantic Council.
He said the #tariff on the #EU, his area of expertise, is a “very high number” that will be painful for #consumers & #businesses on both sides of the Atlantic.
People had been expecting #Trump to announce high #tariffs, but these numbers are stunning. In addition to a 10% tariff on ALL COUNTRIES, dozens of other countries face extra tariffs between 10 & 50%. That will force some manufacturing back into the US, but will also definitely raise costs for American #consumers & #manufacturers & incite #TradeWars on many fronts.
Disgusting: The majority of the nations listed for “reciprocal” #tariffs on the 8-pg document distributed to reporters by the #Trump admin are #poor, #developing economies. They include some of the world’s poorest nations -- #SouthSudan, #Burundi & the #CentralAfricanRepublic -- as well as countries in the throes of #war, notably #Sudan.
And French language laws in Quebec
@Nonilex you’re a saint to listen to him. I can’t bother to listen to the blah blah. Just get to the point.
@Nonilex He's already having to bail out the farmers again
@Nonilex is it even true the egg prices went down? Seems exactly the same to me
@Nonilex Trump’s new tariffs are the largest sudden tax increase ever for American consumers and corporations. And, of course, a regressive one.
@Nonilex parties compliant with CUSMA may be exempt.
@Nonilex Trump is not very bright. Instead of measuring the tariffs on US goods imposed by a country, he looks at the balance of trade. It never occurs to him and his minions that poor countries import less from the US because they have less money. Trump assumes that the balance of trade is directly proportional to tariffs and nothing else.
@Nonilex some guys looked into how they "calculated" the tariffs number and for some countries they just took (import - export)/import, like in case of VIetnam: (136.6-13.1)/136.6=90.0 and so they put a 90% tariff.
Are they kindergarden kids? Have they heard of words like analysis or complexity? You can't just put number like this without investigating what is being imported and what is being exported and you can't just put a tariff on everything
@Nonilex so, if other countries stablish a baseline+reciprocal, then the US adjusts, then the other country adjusts and we spiral into infinity.
@Nonilex He seems genuinely surprised that other countries play the Uno reverse card though. What a total brick.
@Nonilex it won't really force manufacturing back to the US.. but I DO hope it forces the US to HANG THESE STUPID FUCKS before our country is completely destroyed.
@mousey @Nonilex if anything it could do the opposite. Harley Davidson moved to making some motorcycles in Asia. Companies will only move manufacturing IF it’s cheaper. Some may move manufacturing to a cheaper region to save on production costs while charging the same even if the tariffs. Some companies may decide they want competing economies too like Canada, Mexico, or the EU.
@Nonilex #NoTaxationWithoutRepresentation One man, idiot47, just imposed a massive TAX hike on every US citizen without any vote from Congress. Let that sink in.
@Nonilex I was at the grocery store today, picking up things, and then putting them back on the shelf instead of in my cart. Eight dollars for cereal?!?
just like the shortages early in covid dramatically raised food prices, yet kroger's et al just kept the prices up after the shortages were gone, i'm expecting to see all sorts of spikes in consumer good prices blamed on tariffs regardless of reality.
What an insane fever dream these guys are smoking.
@Nonilex
“right here in America…”
Where workers can have their Green card voided on a whim & be deported and/or sent to a Central American prison…
Where we have no national health insurance…
Where books are banned, trans people are in jeopardy, abortions are limited to blue states (& manufacturing is done mostly in red states)…
Where voting rights are being dismantled in every session of Congress…
Where gun deaths are commonplace…
Where veterans’ health & well-being are a joke…
Where Social Security is endangered, food programs were just decimated, health services were just cut, history is taught according to MAGA, Federal Dept of Education is on the way out,
Where elderly & disabled people’s services were just cut, including food,
Where freedom of speech & other constitutional rights are disappearing,
Where Billionaire Boyz & mega-corporations pay few taxes but ordinary Americans bear the burden.
Yeah…those countries are definitely on their way to manufacture here!
@Nonilex
#TrumpTariffs #TrumpeanTradewars
*IMPORTANT #GreatDepression2.0*
If you haven't studied economics or haven't lived through the 1930's, I strongly recommend listening to today's #TheIntelligence #Podcast of #TheEconomist about the disastrous #SmootHawleyTariffAct of 1930.
It has been done before and the results boosted the #GreatDepression, which was milder in very few nations, such as Japan.
To keep the picture: the #TrumpTariffs are #MacroeconomicSepuku:
@Nonilex Those numbers are made up. The Trump administration is just trying to hurt the American people as hard as possible.
@Nonilex "currency manipulation" is a dangerous one to include as justification for the EU tariffs. If the US dollar falls he may argue there is more manipulation. Though of course that would actually reduce the selling price of goods in the EU so actually make US exports more affordable.
@Nonilex "Thinking" is not his Forte, Critical even less so! #turdreich #trumpregime
I just spent $26.07 for 72 eggs this morning at Costco fellow citizen Nonilex. I usually would only buy a flat of 60 but they didn't have them. They just had 24 packs with a limit of three.
ST
"History should be taught twice, so it will be more difficult to forget."
SearingTruth
Trump is also ignoring the surplus that the US frequently runs in trade in services. Think Microsoft, Google, etc. but also international accounting firms, business consultancies and law firms.
@Nonilex The maga moron leading the UAW supports everything his master Trump wants
But I am sure many union members are dreading what's coming
My car is 10 years old but is thankfully relatively low mileage for how old it is.
I was considering upgrading in the next 2-3 years but I guess 'drive it into the ground' is the plan, now.
Thanks, Trump.
@Nonilex We pay the VAT. We, the Europeans. I ordered some books from the US last november that arrived yesterday and I have had to pay customs and 21% VAT. Cheetolini can suck my sweaty European balls.
Joe Biden understood economics real well but the small businesses, religious Bible thumpers and farmers hated him.
@Nonilex
What about US State sales taxes?
@Nonilex I think he needs to be schooled by some actual economists.
@Nonilex According to financial experts. You don't have to say most: the ones who don't agree with this viewpoint are demonstrating that they are anything but expert.