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"The American public voted for Trump," "the American public will learn," "the American people were duped by a conman..."
Can you mutherfuckers PLEASE STOP?
Trump is literally on 75M votes; he got 74M last time. This is not about a whole bunch of NEW PEOPLE turning fascist.
10M fucking people just stayed home because they didn't see what the point in voting for genocide, a police state, and being buds with the Cheney family was.
GOIDDAMNIT I fucking hate our media.
I sear to fucking christ these people do not know, or do not WANT to know, any answer but "appease fascism."
Trump is the SAME DAMN GUY he was FOUR YEARS ago; the Dems just ran SIGNIFICANTLY TO the RIGHT of where they were in 2020.
The Dems literally lost because they ran a campaign for Republicans and guess what? Your fucking BASE are NOT Republicans. It's right there in the fucking numbers and the results from both 2016 and 2020.
Anyone telling you the answer is to appeal more to the 75M fascists who backed Trump is simply looking for an excuse to make out with fascists.
PERIOD. The fucking numbers are RIGHT THERE.
Joe Biden was not a uniquely charismatic dude. Nor was his legislative record anything anyone but bougie cracker liberals would write home about. The guy wrote the fucking 1994 Crime bill, used to eulogize segregationists, and was a huge cheerleader for the disastrous Iraq War.
He won, by MILLIONS of votes, because he promised to end the wars, reign in police violence, dismantled the migrant carceral complex and punish Nazis.
What did Harris promise? YEAH NOT FUCKING THAT.
Like we have THREE elections worth of data on running against this SAME FUCKING GUY now.
Harris/Clinton: Run a campaign for Never Trump Republicans, bougie surburban crackers, rich donors, and NatSec ghouls = LOSE to a reality TV show assclown nazi.
Biden: Run a campaign for a diverse coalition containing young people, Black people, brown people, poor people, and anyone else who opposed nazis = WIN and by MILLIONS.
Fuck your narrative; it's RIGHT THERE IN THE NUMBERS AND RESULTS.
Writing op eds about what mystical forces could have caused Trump to win over so many people Trumpism is about persecuting; it's ALL BULLSHIT. You're talking about percentages of votes, so when MILLIONS of people stay HOME because you ran right of George W Bush and that's not exactly a thing DEMOCRATS AND ANTIFASCISTS WANT TO VOTE FOR, it looks like Trump GAINED in those demos. But he didn't. He's on 75M votes. You just pissed away 10M votes running for Never Trump Republicans as a Reaganite pig
Harris literally could have dusted off Biden's 2020 platform, word for word and said "I'm for these things and I'm not responsible for the fact that the guy I worked for failed to deliver them; I was Vice President and if you make me President I'll get you the goods" and she would have racked up 81+ Million votes and beat this assclown. She choose the other way, the way Hillary lost in 2016.
And I absolutely REFUSE to accept that you assclowns analyzing this election cannot see this.
So why are they lying to you? Guilt, shame? Stupid?
No, because THESE NARRATIVES they're pushing A) allow their rich donors and members of the ruling class (of which most of the party leadership belong to) to collaborate with fascists and retain control over the OPPOSITION to Trumpism, despite the fact that they've lead you to ruin.
If they ADMITTED they blew it by appeasing nazis, you'd demand people be fired and would turn on anyone COLLABORATING WITH FASCISTS for profit.
And please, ffs, stop telling me "it's racism and sexism" because I will blow my fucking stack. Let's review:
A) The existence of racism and sexism were known quantities when she was nominated; you nominated her anyway
B) Obama is a Black guy and won two terms just fine
C) Harris's 2024 platform was originally Joe Biden's 2024 platform and Biden, a WHITE IRISH DUDE, polled WORSE than Harris finished
D) Trump got 74M votes in 2020, and 75M in 2024
"racism and sexism exist" is NOT an excuse.
Millions of shitlords did not turn out to vote against the Black woman; that did not happen. The numbers are VERY CLEAR that this is NOT what happened.
Literally the only NEW thing about this entire election? The only thing that's different from both 2016 and 2020?
Somehow, Trump leveraged Youtubers, Podcasters, and fucking Pro Wrestlers into replacing the portion of his base that aged out/perished over the past 8 years with your angry white sons. So great job American parenting.
But that's it. Everything else is EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN THE LAST TWO TIMES.
Like I told you every fucking waking moment since 2016-17; nazis, were ALWAYS going to vote for the NAZI.
It was not me who lead anyone to believe otherwise. It was your LEADERS who insisted they could be convinced, saved, persuaded. And a whole bunch of bougie cracker liberals who NEVER ONCE ACCEPTED that their friends, family, and co-workers had WILLINGLY EMBRACED fascism went along with it because admitting the TRUTH would make lunches with nazis and Thanksgiving diner AWKWARD.
So many ppl have this stupid theory of elections, encouraged by the media, based on the idea that America is somehow 330M undecideds who MIGHT vote for Dems or the GOP, depending on who gives a better speech or some shit
It's not true. It hasn't been true for decades at a minimum. In fact, I suspect it has NEVER been true
The nazis were ALWAYS going to vote for the nazi. Your job was to churn out NOT NAZIS (which btw, Biden did in 2020 running way left of Harris/Clinton) not to CONVINCE NAZIS.
Anyway, there's your autopsy that I've been trying to write in essay form for the better part of a week but simply can't because I'm TOO FUCKING ANGRY and bougie media minions keep coming up with 200 new excuses a day that conveniently mean their friends in the political class are not responsible and should retain power.
I might still write that essay, but we were running out of time and the zone is flooded with bullshit.
So there's your autopsy. I'm right. You fucking KNOW I am. They lying.
@AnarchoNinaWrites The millions who voted for Biden who didn’t even vote this time shocked me. I knew racism & misogny were rampant & I know there were some shenanigans, but to throw Democracy under the buss & your friends & fam with it because you couldn’t make yourself vote for the brilliant hard working experienced black woman…
@Pineywoozle That is not why they didn't vote. Read the thread or don't; please don't just repeat the same narrative I spent 10+ posts debunking at me because I ain't here for it.
@AnarchoNinaWrites Why do you think the ones who voted for Joe in 2020 just didn’t vote this time?
@Pineywoozle Read the thread.
Joe Biden ran on: ending the forever wars, reigning in police violent, dismantling the migrant carceral complex, and punishing nazis.
Harris ran on: a genocide, we love cops, fascist immigration laws, and hugging nazis.
It's right there in the platform. Harris ran a campaign for Never Trump Republicans and bougie surburban crackers afraid of brown people; the problem is that's not her base, it's Trump's.
@AnarchoNinaWrites I don’t think even if that were true, that that explains away millions who voted for Joe just not voting nor do I think that’s a pic of her campaign. She ran on helping America solve its issues, unemployment, healthcare, old age care & manufacturing. She got lies about not doing anything about Gaza shouted at her when voters who hadn’t been conditioned to hate Dems & blame them instead of Rs would have headed the call from their religious leaders to please vote for Kamala.
@Pineywoozle I'm not here to play fantasy with you.
Good day.
@Pineywoozle @AnarchoNinaWrites Kamala's "solutions" were milquetoast centrist garbage. People don't want lame "opportunity zones" and "access to affordable [blank]." They want bold changes, like no tax on anyone making $100k or less, medicare for all, childcare for all, ending genocide... serious change.
@MaierAmsden I tell ya what, I’m just gonna block ya and you can echo chamber with your buddies
@Pineywoozle @AnarchoNinaWrites Gotta side with Nina on this one. If millions of your *own base* didn't vote for you against an actual fascist, there's a big problem with your messaging. Full stop.
Read Obama's incendiary, balls-in speeches. You can almost go through a list of flashpoint issues for middle- and low-income voters, ticking them off one by one. He called inequality the "defining issue of our time".
Note that whether or not he delivered on his campaign pledges is irrelevant here.
@ApostateEnglishman No, it isn’t. I think it points to a level of misogny, racism & influence. She improved Biden’s F>M ratio. That alone speaks to misogny. If it was just “messaging” that dynamic wouldn’t’ve dramatically shifted. Nina’s assessment of Kamala’s platform was utter far far #farL Bullshit. Have you read Kamala’s platform or watched her speaches? I kept Nina in my TL as a bellwether. She’s always been spot on her propagandized target. Do a key phrase search from her TL #USPol
@ApostateEnglishman Also her premise that all three elections were identical was utter garbage.
@Pineywoozle Since you're critiquing someone who is actually in the room - in her house! - I'll keep my own mouth shut.
Good day to you.
@ApostateEnglishman She “critiqued” me, and since she also blocked me she isn’t in this room. I was having what I thought was a civil discourse with her that involved a difference of opinion and got told I was “absolutely fucking bonkers.”