"No one wants to work anymore."
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RT @jamieson
This is demented https://www.wsj.com/articles/that-plum-job-listing-may-just-be-a-ghost-3aafc794?mod=mhp
https://twitter.com/jamieson/status/1637817227410825225
@rbreich reality kinda sucks
As somebody who's trying to find work, I have to wonder whether listing open positions while not actually intending to FILL those "open positions" counts as some kind of false advertising ....
@rbreich
That's baloney and has been for the more than 100 years the aristocracy has trotted out that bullshit...
Diabolical use of what people naturally infer. Corporate Propaganda.
Meanwhile, orgs that actually need to hire resources can't represent themselves sufficiently - they're being drowned in a sea a false advertising.
As one of the chronically #underemployed #post-boomers? Ask me, I know.
Worse? The plethora of so-called #Recruiters falsely posting jobs that are just fronts for entities whose only objective is to aggregate personal data.
#Worker beware!
@rbreich yeah. Sounds about right.
I've seen the same listings up for eons on several companies so I just assumed they were shit to work for and moved on. Seems it's being used as a ploy as well.
It is annoying, maybe overall it'd be a good place to work but if HR wants to pull that nonsense and management signs off on it then fuck them.
Long long ago the HR department where I worked advertised at great expense in a PAPER for a position in my department. I asked them if they had big changes planned as it was totally impossible for that position to exist in my department.
@nlarson830 @rbreich no matter how friendly they appear, HR is not and never will be your friend
@rbreich This should be illegal
Corporate sickness
@rbreich
Bonkers. Another double whammy for the right-wing to say people don’t want to fill jobs that companies don’t want to fill.
@rbreich sounds like advertising is cheaper than it should be
@realsimon @rbreich I could support a tax on advertising. Not sure how it should work tho
@rbreich what I'm getting from this is that it's just as hard to find a job as working a job
@rbreich For sure. Businesses love to pretend nobody wants to work...until you try to find a job.
@rbreich If a “benefit” was received, this constitutes as prosecutable fraud.
Would the Feds care to investigate?
@rbreich my son, who just graduated from college, has run into this exact thing.
@rbreich Our company has been searching for workers. I just wish we were in position to spend money for nothing
@rbreich I can't tell you how many jobs I've clicked on only to find they are either a scam, are no longer available or refuse to list the job summary. Also, I've gotten callbacks on a few, and the job they described over the phone was nothing like the one I responded to. I responded to one that advertised for a recruiter, and when they called, it was for a $10/hour receptionist that had zero to do with recruiting! I work in HR, and I would have been fired for such misrepresentation.
@rbreich I'm glad I #QuietQuit during the pandemic. For years I went the extra mile... for what? The only thing it brought me was more physical work that tore up my body. My good nature was exploited so they could hire less. No more I says!
@rbreich why is it that it seems like all businesses of any size are all just running scams. From the service corp that charges both the last customer and the next customer for the travel time of a contractor going between jobs, to the biggest corp not giving needed health care or banks with the garbage fees for nothing, to these job postings..
@rbreich while they are great examples of falsehoods masquerading as attempts, there is also a considerable amount of genuine remaining fallout in regards to the willingness to work.
I've worked in the same industry for my whole life and this is something I've never seen in this concentration.
And all we can do is continue to throw the same methods at it and try to not go under.
@rbreich
I work in a retail store.
When customers complain about orders being late, or nobody being available to help them, the store manager gives them the "NOBODY WANTS TO WORK" spiel.
Meanwhile, he's cut all of our hours back to 39 per week; no one is ALLOWED to reach 40 hours, as much as WE WANT TO WORK!
@rbreich sounds like fraud to me. Maybe some enterprising attorney can go after a few companies they advertise jobs then ignore all applicants
@rbreich our union forced management to hire enough workers to properly staff our job site.
@rbreich
No one wants to be exploited anymore, that's what.
I'm not even at the legal working age and I ally with those rebelling against the evil(s) of the capitalist system.
@rbreich extremely depressing information to read as I’m currently applying for jobs, but also good to know about at the same time. #knowledge
Reasons for ghost employment advertisements:
1. Salary manipulation tactics.
It ensures new hires accept the 1st offer & thwarts attempts to renegotiate salaries after finding out the true scope of duties after their probationary period ends
- "You are easily replaceable"
- "We treat employees as interchangeable cogs"
- "You are a dime a dozen"
2. Budget preservation. Employers hire a body to fill a chair until they find someone "more suitable" ie white, Christian & male
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3. Deliberately instilling feelings of employment precarity.
Employees don't ask for raises or improvements in working conditions if their job is always advertised
4. Wage suppression
When employees see jobs advertised at salary levels below their current salary, they don't ask for raises and are more likely to tolerate compensation package rollbacks like poorer health insurance benefits
5. Political/economic disinformation
Republican billionaire donors like Marcus want to end ...
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the elements of the social safety net like employment insurance using a false narrative that EI discourages the work ethic.
Republican billionaire donors bitterly resent having to pay taxes.
6. Preparation for scab labor if there's a strike or a unionization drive
Constantly maintaining a pool of readily available candidates undercuts union drives.
In the USA, the pressure for unpaid work is nearly unbearable.
Officially "illegal", but in reality it's a widespread & pernicious practice. It's an employment practice that's spread to the UK & Canada.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_theft
In the USA, there are few agencies tasked with recovering unpaid wages.
Employees must engage in costly, time-consuming lawsuits to get the compensation they are due.
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In some jurisdictions, right wing industry influences revisions to labor law to create exceptions & loopholes for unpaid work.
In BC, Canada, Electronic Arts was successful in getting BC labour laws changed to exclude high tech workers.
Agricultural workers are most often targeted for systematic wage theft.
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2023/01/26/Farm-Workers-Deserve-Basic-Minimum-Wage/
Gig workers often face confusing compensation practices to obscure wage theft
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=8d04e153-7c71-4f95-b0a3-85f1ad698665
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The rights to overtime have been eroded
https://time.com/6168310/overtime-pay-history/
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20211013-how-working-unpaid-hours-became-part-of-the-job
Undocumented workers are often deported on payday to evade payment
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/americas/us-mexico-lost-wages-intl-latam/index.html
Globally, women's work goes so unrecognized, there's a societal expectation that their work "should be" unpaid
https://annehelen.substack.com/p/other-countries-have-social-safety
https://msmagazine.com/2021/03/01/marshall-plan-for-moms-feminist-coronavirus-mothers/
https://msmagazine.com/2023/03/08/womens-rights-abortion-iran-aghanistan-usa/
Wage theft takes bizarre forms like uncompensated transportation & housing
Too many of these false narratives about employees are corporate speak to promote a malign influence narrative.
The "quiet quitting" narrative serves to erode labor laws regarding mandatory overtime and arbitrary changes in employment practices.
They threaten to change visa regulations and flood the labor marker with low wage imported labor or to offshore jobs.
It joins the tiresome narratives about "Nobody wants to work", "There's a shortage of labor", & "Lazy workers".
There is no shortage of workers or work.
There's only a shortage of academics that want to do professional work for less-than-living-wage.
The "supply and demand" logic would dictate rising wages, but most capitalists are too lazy to follow through on their own logic, which makes them worse than honest assholes.
@kkarhan @Npars01 @rbreich
A while ago, we had the discussion in Germany that companies shouldn't pay software developers more than 100.000€, because that would disadvantage smaller companies, because they wouldn't have the money to pay a developer...
Well, if your company needs developers and you can't pay them, your company should either adapt or... die
@Npars01 @kkarhan @rbreich
There obviously needs to be a counter-op.
Idea:
If you are applying for a new job,
* because that is a requirement for not losing social benefits or
* because you want to gauge your market value or
* because you really like applying for jobs then:
Always ask for a 20% (or 30% or 50%) higher salary compared to the average of what would be expected.
This could be partially automated when more companies start asking for salary expectations.
@rbreich
exactly.
I know many people actively applying, yet no responses to date.
@rbreich Image description: A survey of more than 1,000 hiring managers. Among those who said they advertised job postings that they weren't actively trying to fill, close to half said they kept the ads up to give the impression the company was growing, according to Clarify Capital, a small-business-loan provider behind the study. One-third of the managers who said they advertised jobs they weren't trying to fill said they kept the listings up to placate overworked employees.
My crazy "white wing" conservative neighbor wouldn't believe this even if Fox News said it was researched and written by Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis.
@rbreich simply unethical. And evil.
@rbreich almost like they’re exploiting the system for profit.
@rbreich Indeed. This really needs to clarified as "nobody wants to work in crap conditions, with little security and poor prospects for bosses who don't care for well being."
@rbreich this is fraud, plain and simple. What will it take to get it prosecuted?
@rbreich My solution: As soon as you list a job opening, you start paying a tax equal to the salary until you hire someone (and yes, job postings will have to state the salary when I am king).
@rbreich yeah don't ask me where ;) but there is this company I know that has job postings up for 6 months now but its in a hiring freeze...