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Something that I think those in power have forgotten is that things like the right to protest, strike provisions, human rights legislation, etc are the *compromise*.
By stripping those away, it's just as illegal to march from A to B as it is to drag them into the street and beat the shit out of them, and that's usually a damn sight more effective.
Due process is protection for the powerful. They seem to have forgotten this.
@stavvers if assault gets you as much jail time as blocking traffic…
@stavvers YES I keep wondering when people will crack. It was already looking febrile last year - look at Luigi (allegedly).
/∞
∫ The rule of law and the social contract are the two main things stopping the proletariat from putting their heads on spikes and converting their mansions into social housing.
I oppose the measure. The measure involves spearing oligarchs' severed heads with the spit forks, rotisserie-cooking it and eating it. Cooking hoofdkaas doesn't stop prion-related problems, and I prefer vegetarian, please. Also the OceanGate Titan submersible implosion is a red flag that their other inhabited spaces, such as living spaces, are uninhabitable to the point of needing to condemn the buildings./gen
You're not wrong of course; all life is anarchy and it is up to us all collectively to agree to an order.
The powers that be in the UK haven't forgotten about strike provisions being a compromise... they're working to erode them when they can!
Under the last government, rules were changed so that a healthcare worker down to work on a day their union has declared it will strike, if that worker's name is against a line of the work-roster that is declared necessary for minimum "safe" staffing, and that worker has been informed of that fact in advance of the strike, can be fired if they go on strike.
This is the gratitude with which healthcare workers are repaid after covid.
as is taxation. I think we should have a GPT - a guillotine preventing tax.
US Americans should have heard about "no taxation without representation" - how many there are taxed but not really represented?
@stephenwhq Exactly. The GOP are trying to prevent people likely to vote Dem from voting for how many decades now?
@wonka @stephenwhq @stavvers and those who are enormously overrepresented (the powerful and ludicrously wealthy) being barely taxed at all.
@stavvers it's not even hard to do
@stavvers Theodore Roosevelt's message to his class-peers.
@stavvers every time some idiot proposes draco shit like "DEATH PENALTY FOR MUGGERS" and you have to explain that if you're gonna die if you get caught, anything any petty criminal does becomes self-defence
@stavvers I guess 1792 is just too far away now.
@donlamb_1 As is the victory over nazi germany in 1945.
@stavvers I explain to my students that civil liberties are a safety valve. If you cut off all the peaceful (if inconvenient) ways of expressing dissent, there's no point in *not* being violent.
@stavvers I somehow remember that "to protest peacefully" is included in the US constitution by the founders. But then again, I'm just an ignorant Finn from Europe...
I figure the latter starts in September.
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That's so true..
The alternative has been forgotten!!
@stavvers This is a very, very good point. I hadn't thought of it from that direction. Es importante.
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This story was published 5 years ago, and is much more informative than simply referring to an alleged assassin
Radicalized, A short story about health care, and desperation
by Cory Doctorow @pluralistic
https://prospect.org/culture/books/2024-12-09-radicalized-cory-doctorow-story-health-care/
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I think they slowly destroyed intentionaly the proletarian cohesion. So they can do as much as they want
@stavvers In other words:
If protest is outlawed, only outlaws will protest.
@stavvers yes. Without the compromise you're left with "le razoir nationale". Is that really what they want?
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I don't get how they never worry about this - it's very obvious.
Maybe culture wars keep them safe. For every heroine or hero there'll be 10 people purity checking and another 100 000 going "oh no i couldn't possibly support this person!", "wrong colour/sexual orientation/gender/age" or any other arbitrary micro-division along with "plus 100 years ago their ancestors did such and such"
Just my theory. The thing it has going for it is it's working very well for those in power.
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the legal unions here in canada have come up with an ingenious method of preventing strikes.
the old contract runs out and the workers have been really badly paid lately, again.
the workers vote to strike.
then a possible strike date is announced.
then backroom negotiation begins.
then on the fucking morning of the announced day, the union announces that "a tentative deal has been reached! it is a really good one! we will share it after its been ratified!"
its gonna be another shit contract.
the unions have completely buckled to the demands of capital.
Dont let the night be over @stavvers they haven't forgotten, and that's why they're trying to ensure i) the people are fragmented and at *eachother* ii) the cops are sufficiently militarized to win that fight
@stavvers something something the Tree of Liberty, right?
@stavvers thought-provoking, thanks!