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Nonilex

2 members of 's campaign staff had a verbal & physical altercation Monday w/an ofcl at where Trump participated in a [performative] wreath laying ceremony.
The cemetery ofcl tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming & photographing in a section where recent US casualties are buried. The source said Arlington ofcls had made clear only cemetery staff are authorized to take photographs or film in the area.



npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-50911

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Nonilex

When the cemetery ofcl tried to prevent campaign staff from entering Section 60 of campaign staff verbally & pushed the ofcl aside.

…In a statement to NPR, said it "can confirm there was an incident, & a report was filed."


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Nonilex

“Federal prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate’s campaign," acc/to the statement. " reinforced & widely shared this law & its prohibitions with all participants."


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Nonilex

So here is a full written confession of ’s latest (pic of Trump social media post)




Remember Federal prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National

No where in the law does it say that any family member of a service member buried there can give permission. Period.

pic of Trump social media post around 11:30PM ET Aug 27, 2024, a full confession
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Nonilex

campaign posts from after altercation

A ofcl said the Trump campaign was told repeatedly that they could not capture photos & video in , the final resting place of many recent fatalities.

Trump posted video from 2 days after the altercation in which defense ofcls said staff sought to enforce guidelines the campaign had received.



washingtonpost.com/politics/20

The Washington Post · Trump campaign posts video from Arlington Cemetery after alleged altercationBy Dan Lamothe
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Nonilex

The campaign video… showed appearing during a…ceremony memorializing 13 US troops who were killed…during the US evacuation from Afghanistan. Trump is seen in the video at the Tomb of the Unknowns & walking among marble headstones as soft guitar music plays & Trump is heard criticizing the Biden admin’s handling of the withdrawal.
[In blatant disregard for the prohibiting political &/or campaign activity in .]


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Nonilex

ofcls said a confrontation occurred during the event in which a staff member warned people employed by the campaign that while they were permitted to take photos & videos in the cemetery, they could not do so in , the final resting place for many US who were killed in recent conflicts….Guidance was issued to the campaign both before the event & again once they were on-site due to restrictions on -related activities there….

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Nonilex

“What was abundantly clear cut was: , no photos & no video,” the official said.

A person familiar w/the matter told NPR, which 1st reported the incident, that the campaign staff pushed & verbally attacked a ofcl who tried to stop them from taking photos & videos in Section 60.

…Trump campaign comms dir said that…the campaign was…“prepared to release footage” to defend against “defamatory claims.”
[they haven’t, probably bc it doesn’t exist]

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Nonilex

Allison Jaslow, chief execof & of America, said in a statement that is a hallowed place that should be off limits to partisan activity.

“Any aspiring elected official, especially one who hopes to be Commander in Chief, should not be confused about that fact,” Jaslow said. “Nor should they hide behind members of our community to justify politicking on such sacred ground.”


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Nonilex

ofcls hoped clear rules would avoid a damaging public spat w/Trump.
He gave them one anyway.
Earlier this month, ’s campaign contacted ofcls about visiting ….
Federal prohibits -related activities at , & is the most prestigious & sacred of all. ofcls were deeply concerned about Trump turning it into a stop,…acc/to ofcls & internal msgs reviewed by WaPo.
washingtonpost.com/politics/20

The Washington Post · How a Trump visit sparked turmoil at America’s most sacred cemeteryBy Isaac Arnsdorf
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Nonilex

Ofcls said they wanted to respect the wishes of grieving family members who wanted there, but at the same time were wary of Trump’s record of the . So they laid out ground rules they hoped would wall off from the final resting place of those who paid the ultimate for their .

Instead, they got sucked into exactly the kind of crisis they were hoping to avoid.


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Nonilex

A employee tried to enforce the rules as provided to her by blocking ’s team from bringing cameras to the graves of US killed in recent years, acc/to a senior ofcl & another person briefed on the incident. A larger male campaign aide insisted the camera was allowed & pushed past the employee, leaving her shocked.

[that the employee was a is probably 1 reason Trump et al were such dicks]

#law#military
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Nonilex

campaign spox responded to the 1st report of the altercation, from NPR on Tues, by accusing, w/o evidence, the employee of “suffering from a mental health episode” [Im surprised he didn’t call the woman “hysterical” stereotypical crap]. ofcls said that the employee was trying to do her job & that the claim of a mental health episode was false.


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Nonilex

On Wed said the employee “initiated physical contact that was unwarranted & unnecessary.” [wrong - you were breaking the rules & the ]

Cheung also said the would release footage to support his claim but has not. They did, however, post a TikTok of the event on Wed — exactly what ofcls tried to prevent. The use of the footage marked a flagrant violation of the against actions at , said.

#HarrisWalz2024
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Nonilex

[]…portrays himself as a champion of the , but point to his public & private remarks denigrating .

“I just haven’t seen anything this disgusting. It is completely inappropriate to do any kind of activity on a federal installation, & it is …to conduct any kind of activity on a w/the graves of our fallen,”said Paul Eaton, a ret general & adviser to whose father’s remains are interred at .

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Nonilex

ofcls were concerned about the event Mon because have frequently used the…[Afghanistan exit], as a cudgel. In advance of the event, ofcls told ’s team that he could come in his PERSONAL CAPACITY & bring PERSONAL aides, but NOT staff. Campaign advisers went anyway.

No hats, signs or banners were allowed, acc/to ofcls. No speeches.


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Nonilex

Reporters & photographers could follow for a ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknowns, but not to the 14-acre plot where from recent wars are buried, known as . The media was kept away, unable to see the altercation —or anything else, for that matter— during that part of his visit.

The 1st part went according to plan. W/full media coverage, Trump & 2 injured Marines…laid a wreath at the tomb…dedicated to deceased troops whose remains have not been ID’ed or recovered.

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Nonilex

The press then returned to a holding area, specifically instructed that reporters & cameras would not accompany & bereaved families to .

But Trump ofcls said they did not view the ’s own photographer & videographer [who weren’t allowed to be anywhere there as campaign staff in the first place] as subject to the same restrictions, so they continued on to Section 60. Their arrival there prompted the standoff w/the employee over the rules.

#law
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Nonilex

The incident has raised concerns about the of staff members, the senior ofcl said, w/vitriol aimed at them initially on Monday by liberals, after the news coverage of at the was published [really? I was immediately concerned for the staff & knew it was Trump et al being who they always are]. That has given way to language from that also is “concerning.”


Nonilex

“If the [] feels the need to defend their team’s actions — which include & physically pushing out of the way [] a longtime & member of the team at working to protect the sanctity of the sacred spaces — then that’s on them,” one ofcl said. “The rules were made clear to participants, & these two chose to disregard those rules. End of story.”


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Nonilex

…Co-campaign manager , who was present Monday along w/other employees, in a statement called the employee “a despicable individual” who “does not deserve to represent the hollowed grounds of Arlington National Cemetery.” [mother f⁕⚠︎er!!] LaCivita posted video on X on Mon of laying flowers at the grave of Staff Sgt. Ryan Knauss, a soldier killed in the explosion, & speaking to his family on the phone [video all taken in ].


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Nonilex

In addition to the ’s TikTok video, posed for photos on Monday at the graveside of Marine Sgt. Nicole Gee w/her family [in ], including 1 where he is giving a thumbs-up & others are smiling. Eaton called the gesture “appalling.”

The campaign also defended itself w/a joint statement from the 2 injured Marines who appeared w/Trump & the families of some of the killed, saying they wanted Trump & his cameras there [irrelevant & illegal].

#military#law
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Nonilex

…Other & bereaved families viewed ’s visit as to a sacred space that also belongs to them & to the nation. is a place where young widows can be seem trimming grass w/hand scissors, sharing comfort w/other , & decorating graves w/flowers & beads. Visitors have long taken graveside photographs there, & sitting presidents have visited before, but not as part of events.


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Nonilex

“That’s not the time or place for it,” said Karen Meredith, a board member whose son, 1st Lt. Ken Ballard, is buried in the second row of . “They had to themselves into this thing. The lack of for the rules or the norms or the at — there’s just no respect.”


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Nonilex

’s running mate, Sen , turned the incident into a attack during a speech in Erie, PA, on Wednesday. “We’re going to talk about a story out of those 13 brave, innocent Americans who lost their lives,” he said. He then falsely accused of criticizing Trump’s visit to the , which she hasn’t commented on. A Harris campaign spox called it “pretty sad.”


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Nonilex

has repeatedly defied restrictions [] on using property for purposes by staging a speech at , participating in a television interview inside the , & holding [some of] the 2020 at the itself. As president, he pushed unsuccessfully for a *European-style* [nazi-esque] parade down Pennsylvania Ave.



apnews.com/article/virus-outbr

AP News · AP Explains: Is a Trump White House acceptance speech legal?WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump instantly ignited new controversy when he said recently that he may deliver his nomination acceptance speech during the Republican National Convention at the White House.
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Nonilex

At the same time, has repeatedly badmouthed the sacrifices of American . In 2015, he mocked the late Sen (R) for his time as a , saying, “I like people who weren’t captured, & earlier this month said the civilian Presidential Medal of Freedom was “much better” than the because those who received the latter were “either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead.”


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Nonilex

’s fmr aides have said he similarly disparaged in private….Ret Gen , fmr chair of the , said Trump responded to appearing w/a wounded by saying, “No one wants to see that.” His fmr chief of staff, , said Trump called US buried at cemeteries in France “suckers” & “losers.”…Kelly has also said Trump told him during a previous visit to at , “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

#law
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Nonilex

“He never understood why would you do anything that doesn’t benefit you,” one fmr snr WH ofcl said…. “I remember talking to him about death & for the country, & it was like talking Greek to him. That’s why it’s the height of hypocrisy he’s there laying a wreath, given his general feelings about .”
The fmr ofcl said it was painful to see the suffering families put their faith in Trump.


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Nonilex

“They are clearly grieving, & their kids have given the ultimate sacrifice, & they think he can help them,” the fmr ofcl said. “They don’t know who he really is & what he’s really about. It’s not their fault.”

Cheung called the fmr ofcl a “coward” for speaking anonymously. [classy. But bullying & pushing an employee trying to enforce the is courageous to staff]


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Nonilex

FYI This was a WRITTEN statement by , besides insulting the employee by calling her “a despicable individual” who “does not deserve to represent the hollowed grounds of Arlington National Cemetery” — either the idiot can’t spell “hallowed” or doesn’t know what it means. Maybe he thinks because graves are holes that the earth was “hollowed”— & they want to eliminate the dept of 🤦🏼‍♀️

“For a despicable individual to physically prevent President Trump’s team from accompanying him to this solemn event is a disgrace and does not deserve to represent the hollowed grounds of Arlington National Cemetery. Whoever this individual is, spreading these lies are dishonoring the men and women of our armed forces.” - Chris LaCivita, a top Trump campaign adviser, written statement. [“hallowed” misspelled as “hollowed”]
#Trump#idiocracy#AVeryStableGenius
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Nonilex

+ nitpicking ’s poor grammar

“…spreading these lies are dishonoring…” is also incorrect.

It should be “…spreading these lies is dishonoring…”

f⁕⚠︎ing morons.

#Trump#idiocracy#AVeryStableGenius
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Nonilex

defends Cemetery staffer ‘pushed aside’ by aides

The employee decided not to press charges, & the service considers the matter closed, ofcls said.

The Army on Thurs defended a staff member at who found herself in a brief confrontation w/2 men working for the Trump campaign, saying in a statement that she “acted with professionalism” during the encounter & that her reputation has been “unfairly attacked” by Trump’s reps.
washingtonpost.com/elections/2

The Washington Post · Army defends Arlington Cemetery staffer ‘pushed aside’ by Trump aidesBy Dan Lamothe
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Nonilex

The , whom ofcls have requested remain unidentified because of concerns for her , sought to restrict photography by the campaign in accordance w/ federal regulations [] barring activity at the , the final resting place of >400k US troops, & family members.

#ArlingtonNationalCemetery#disrespect#military
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Nonilex

The confrontation prompted the woman to file a report w/ enforcement, but officials said she later decided not to press charges. “Therefore,” the statement says, “the considers this matter closed.”

…After news of the incident was first reported…, campaign spox alleged w/o evidence that the employee had suffered a “mental health episode,” & Trump co-campaign manager called her a “despicable individual.”




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Nonilex

The addressed [the campaign’s slights] head-on in its statement Thursday.

“This incident was unfortunate, & it is also unfortunate that the ANC employee & her professionalism has been unfairly attacked. ANC is a national shrine to the honored dead of the , & its dedicated staff will continue to ensure public ceremonies are conducted w/the & the nation’s fallen deserve.”

#ArlingtonNationalCemetery#disrespect#ServiceMembers
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Nonilex

@meltedcheese

Yeah. Blame my grandmother. Then the fact that I taught ESL & elementary school for a decade. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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David J. Atkinson

@Nonilex So you’ve got some things to work through. Check.

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Nonilex

@meltedcheese

Nope. I prefer communicating with accuracy.

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(((Cindy Weinstein)))

@Nonilex. superb close reading of the words of a putz.

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(((JaneinNJ)))

@Nonilex Your assessment is exactly correct. F#%king morons indeed.

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noplasticshower

@Nonilex of course it was a woman those asshats railroaded

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Paragone

@Nonilex Her accommodation-of-abuse is to be regretted.

Digging-in is the only method for *force-limiting* abuse.

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Pusher of Pixels

@Paragone @Nonilex easy to say from the cheap seats we both occupy.

I can understand*her* not pressing charges, but how is this not a crime of interfering with military personnel?

The Army saying it considers the matter 'closed' is truly shameful.

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Nonilex

@pixelpusher220 @Paragone

She probably doesn’t want the MAGA domestic terrorists after her.

However, DOJ can still charge the Trump campaign for violating Federal Law [32 CFR § 553.32 - Conduct of memorial services & ceremonies.]

🤞

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Paragone

@pixelpusher220 @Nonilex I'm saying that as a person who'd spent decades fighting-off both braindamage & the successfully-crushed-by-medical-and-family-gaslighting that made me incapable of functioning..

Yes it is entirely-true that one has to protect oneself,
AND it is true that one has to protect civil-rights, as well.

Balance, as much as one can manage.

I'm not saying she "had to" resist directly,
I'm saying that consequences exist.

Sometimes it is true that .. you simply can't win:

the required-force is beyond one, AND without it one's kind is getting genocided.

( multiple examples of this in the world, right now ).

I'm also saying that "the best time to plant a tree was decades-ago, the 2nd-best time is right-now".

The best time to prevent the idiocy we're now in was decades-ago.

The 2nd-best time is now.

Waiting further, before opposing-capably .. is too late ( as "now" may be too-late, in the long-run ).

Not criticizing her, though it looked like I was,
I was .. lamenting the lost-leverage against what ought-be-opposed.

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Pusher of Pixels

@Paragone @Nonilex understood and agreed. I'm just appalled the Army is apparently going to let it go. If it's a crime, they have literal video evidence of it.

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@Nonilex

#PostOfTheWeek (season 1):
The Army on Thursday defended an Arlington National Cemetery employee who found herself in a brief confrontation with two men working for the Trump campaign, saying she “acted with professionalism” during the encounter and that her reputation has been “unfairly attacked” by the former president’s representatives.

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Michael Wyman

@Nonilex Trump hollowed out the ground by desecrating the hallowed grounds that were there before.

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Jenny

@Nonilex Maybe he can dispatch the gazpacho to protect the hollowed grounds. Don’t want cemeteries to become peachy dishes for radical leftists. 🙄

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Jenny

@Nonilex oh, excuse me, that should be “peach tree dishes”, very sorry, terrible mistake

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Tomato 🍅 Lady

@Nonilex I can't figure out how the photogs and the abusive person(s)—if not the entire party— were not escorted out at gunpoint, the army seemingly having plenty of guns and all.

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Dale, The Cornflower

@Nonilex
I've been wondering for years, if the late psychologist Lawrence Kohlberg posed his famous moral cognitive dilemmas to Trump, would the moral development scale point any higher than Pre-Conventional (pre-teen)?

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Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦

@Nonilex "I think anything to do on federal property would seem to be problematic."

Fuck that noise; put Trump in a Gitmo cage and have all the campaign events he wants when not being rectally force-fed.

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DEDGirl

@Nonilex Why wouldn’t he do whatever he wants & push people out of his way? He gets away with it every time, with no consequences. He thinks it makes him look strong. He demands respect but thinks forcefully disrespecting rules, laws, or people is showing strength. He’s such a ridiculous buffoon it enrages me that our judiciary allows him to get away with it! It can’t last. The people will revolt!

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Spocko

Here is the photo @Nonilex it referring to of the grinning Trump in Section 60.
It reminded me. Of Trump’s thumbs up and smile at an El Paso hospital following a mass shooting. Melania is holding the baby whose parents were murdered in a mass shooting.

Trump posed for photos on Monday at the graveside of Marine Sgt. Nicole Gee w/her family [in #Section60], including 1 where he is giving a thumbs-up & others are smiling.
Trump’s thumbs up and smile at an El Paso hospital following a mass shooting. Melania is holding the baby whose parents were murdered in a mass shooting.
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NotMaddie!

@spocko @Nonilex What is the hand sign the lady is making? Disturbing all around

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Spocko

@madrobin @Nonilex looks like "Hook 'em Horns" sign. Maybe she is from Texas.

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NotMaddie!

@spocko @Nonilex Who does that at a gravesite? It’s just…weird…

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Chernalev

@spocko @Nonilex I think there are problems with the left side of the picture, the whole thing looks off.

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Ben Ramsey

@spocko @vmstan @Nonilex Why is the person next to Trump making the sign for devils horns?

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DP0

@spocko @Nonilex
In 2021, before the election, a flood catastrophe in Germany caused hundreds of deaths. President and parliament visited the region and addressed the military and civil crisis forces. At that occasion the conservative candidate for the office Chancellor was filmed laughing and joking during a speech.

German Media (including the right-leaning) covered that and considered him unfit for office (lack of medial competence).

Trump's behaviour should've been covered the same way

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(((JaneinNJ)))

@Nonilex And look at all the free media coverage he’s getting. Every provocation garners attention, which his campaign needs and which he craves. Let’s all just stop.

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Spocko

@Nonilex Trump's thumbs up pose at the Arlington Cemetery reminds me of the thumbs up pose at the El Paso hospital following the mass shooting. In this photo Melania is holding the orphan baby of two dead parents.

Trump at the University Medical Center in El Paso with his thumb up smiling holding a Melania is holding a baby whose parents were murdered in a mass shooting. Does this mean he approves of gun violence?
Trump at Arlington Cemetery with his thumbs up and smiling
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Official Kakistocracy Jester 🪓

@spocko #Weird man DonOLD can’t even pretend to be a regular human being for five minutes without doing something that no other person on the planet would do. Thumbs up at Arlington?? Completely messed up. @Nonilex

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GlennMG

@spocko @Nonilex
Disgusting excuse for human beings.

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Nonilex

@spocko and they’re both smiling gleefully. It’s a damned poster for sociopathy.

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ticho

@Nonilex @spocko It's the empty "camera is pointing at me" smile most celebrities use, where eyes are not part of the smile.

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Grandpa Don RIP World

@spocko

He reminds me of the drunken Kid Shaleen (Oscar winner Lee Marvin) in Cat Ballou singing Happy Birthday and blowing out the candles at Frankie Ballou's funeral.

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