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@jeffowski AI is just another tool to make users lazier

@dogpile @jeffowski it has enormous potential to democratize education through #onelaptoperchild and similar initiatives.

@nicholas_saunders @dogpile @jeffowski By teaching everyone things that aren't correct.

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski I said potential, Aria. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

@nicholas_saunders @dogpile @jeffowski LLMs at the moment don't give accurate information. But sure, tell me that I can give up my job and give it over to machines which do not give accurate information.

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski bit of a strawman there, isn't it? It's just a tool like any other. As you yourself said, it's not capable of thought. Writing some boilerplate? Great.

Not understanding the hate.

Because it's an advancement. Terribly inefficient and overblown, but with great potential and some present utility.

@nicholas_saunders @dogpile @jeffowski So it's good at doing bad writing? How is that useful?

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski

It's rather remarkable, but it's also being used to write code. It collates data well, and acts as a frontend for Wikipedia.

It has utility. Of course it's hyped up. And?

@nicholas_saunders @dogpile @jeffowski From what I've heard not great code. What data does it collate?

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski

I'm mainly using copilot as a frontend to Wikipedia, so can only speak to that.

But the mere fact that it's able to pass exams cannot be overlooked.

@nicholas_saunders @dogpile @jeffowski Is that the exams that they found out that were fudged?
Tell me, do you check that the summary it gives you is correct?

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski I'll be glad to test it with you. What subject do you want? You have access to it, anyhow.

But even when you find hallucinations, so what? It's not reference material.

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski then what is your complaint? That it doesn't cheat well enough?

I don't understand your objection.

@nicholas_saunders @dogpile @jeffowski That people think it does things that it doesn't. That some students think it's a search engine. That it has very very limited uses and yet everyone is pushing it on me when I don't need it or want it.

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski oh, well I'm not pushing it on you. To start with, it's environmentally unsound.

I would only say that the chatbot aspect is groundbreaking. It's arguably going to change graphic art, and, maybe more significantly, music.

Its ability to churn our code is impressive, if of limited utility.

@nicholas_saunders @dogpile @jeffowski Those are three different machine learning models though. And sure it's going to make being an artist even more of a poverty ridden job.

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski and, taken to a logical extreme, maybe the death of musical composition (for example).

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski

I don't use #stackoverflow the way that I used to, but they're employing #ai on a massive scale. Why? Because everything's already been fed into the monster anyhow. And more and more responses, etc, will at least get filtered through it.

@nicholas_saunders @dogpile @jeffowski Yes, they're basically stealing other people's work and charging for it. Or if they aren't yet, they will be soon.

@ariaflame @dogpile @jeffowski it's sampling to the nth. Not a musician, but caught a YouTube clip about it.

WRT the chatbot, it's groundbreaking. As a tool.

@nicholas_saunders @ariaflame @dogpile -- Funny that you simply call it "sampling" when artist/musicians have been sued and lost half of the royalties on a song for sampling without credit.
Sisco's Thong Song comes to mind.
Keep telling me how it ain't stealing...
And I can hold up a mirror and show you a talentless musician and a thief.

@jeffowski @ariaflame @dogpile

I'm agreeing with you.

Sampling is the process. Much of sampling is copyright infringement.

It's not dissimilar to inhaling books, not citing sources, and then regurgitating collated data. Without attribution.

For the Cherry on top, they'll sell a plagiarism detection service.